In 2023, Andy and I were laid off from what some would consider a dream job. As many people do, we felt the stigma of being laid off, pretended it never happened and never talked about it.

However, after seeing wave after wave of layoffs being announced across social media, we noticed the same pattern repeating everywhere.
It was as if everyone had the same feelings of shame, sadness, and defeat.

Instead of perpetuating the cycle of not talking about this delicate topic, we created a safe space for conversation around layoffs — shining a light on the stories of those affected.

We got in the studio, turned the mics and the cameras on, and started this podcast independently.